Anime World Order Show # 41 – Dear Ireland: Manga Man Was Lying To You

This week, it’s titles that for one reason or another just aren’t for everyone. More so than usual, anyway. Daryl reviews the 2004 Gonzo anime series Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, Gerald reviews the manga Voyeur and its followup Voyeurs Inc, and Clarissa reviews the Studio Ghibli film Omoide Poroporo, aka Only Yesterday.

In an attempt to combat the audio issues from the last episode, we tried recording this episode with us on separate channels then downmixing to mono during the final encode. The initial file we uploaded had all the parts with us speaking as rather soft, with the sound effects and music being louder. The current file, which is exactly the same filesize as the old file so hopefully the feed won’t flip out, should hopefully not exhibit that. Also, we might have messed up the sync at points. Please let us know if anything’s messed up.

This was supposed to be uploaded last week, but Clarissa had college finals/JET applications to finish up and Gerald had the GMAT to study for. We’ll get the show notes up later today.

Introduction (0:00 – 37:52)
Man, next year is our one year anniversary…and we probably won’t even have an episode. Somehow, that’s appropriate. These allegations from Ireland that our pronounciation of manga is almost D4 in its silliness–and for the record, we’d vastly prefer people send criticism to us directly so that we can actually respond to it–are false, we say! False! Clearly, Ireland has been duped by MANGA MAN:

Responding to your emails and voicemails, we reveal: what do we think about FLCL? Have we played Jump Ultimate Stars (which you can play wifi multiplayer against Japanese people), the only game with both Kenshiro and Kochikame fighting side by side? How much of all that oldschool stuff people like and defend is actually GOOD and how much of it is just stuff we like because we saw it way back when or had to make a big effort to get? Marc Handler wrote in to offer some corrections and additions to our interview with him in Show # 37, and here’s a correction to THIS episode: the second Voltron set is NOT out. Want to find out who’s REALLY responsible for casting dub voice actors? Marc tells us here. How come Gerald and Daryl haven’t taken up learning Japanese? And what do we REALLY think about Noir?

  • Definition of what D4 means since it’s not a term used by anyone in America – a “fake shallow gay accent which is put on to make them feel more important.” Essentially, we’re accused of talking all “no more buttered scones for me, Mater, I’m off to play the GRAHND PIAHNO. PAHRDON me while I FLHY my AEROPLANE” like. This is where we point out that the “main-ga” pronounciation is not how the Japanese say the word; no seriously, listen to them say it. See that? You saying they’re saying it wrong, huh? Yeah, so it’s not that we’ve got a fake pretentious pronounciation, it’s that Manga Entertainment can’t even say their own motherfucking name right.

Promo: The Anime/Videogame Podcast (37:52 – 39:32)
People often wonder why we play the same set of promos over and over. Well, it’s because other podcasts don’t send us their promos to play! Send us your promos, and we’ll play them. One of our listeners, Victor “Fake_Brasilian” Chaves, has started his own anime/videogame podcast, so we’re helping him out by playing his promo. See? That wasn’t hard! We do however feel compelled to point out that searching for “anime/videogame” under iTunes returns no results and “anime/video game” returns one result that we thought wasn’t theirs because it’s called “The Super Anime/Video Game Podcast.” But that is indeed it, so remember that it’s “video game” and not “videogame.” Oh, and by the way, guys: the US courts have ruled that it still counts as kiddy porn if it’s drawn.

Review: Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo (39:32 – 1:07:21)
Daryl takes on this 2004 reimagining of the Alexander Dumas novel, courtesy of Studio Gonzo. Is this show crappy like practically every other Gonzo show ever made? Or did Mahiro Maeda pull it off? This segment was incredibly long, so things like Gerald explaining how much he can’t stand to look at this show and Daryl’s in-depth analysis comparing the Count of Monte Cristo to the Monte Cristo sandwich at Bennigan’s has been removed. Believe it or not, it’s a spoiler to properly explain just how similar the two are. Suffice it to say that the manner in which one would defeat the Count, were such a thing possible, is exactly the same method one would use to defeat Daryl Surat.

This is the Count of Monte Cristo. Seriously, how can ANYONE not see him coming?
The Count of Monte Cristo is very much like this sandwich. The Monte Cristo. A vile concoction of ham, turkey, Swiss and American cheese that’s battered, deep fried beyond recognition and edibility, then coated in powdered sugar and raspberry preserves to give it an air of class. You won’t see THIS coming till it strikes either.A screencap from the fansubs. Yeah, that whole “stop distribution of the fansub once the show is licensed” thing? That’s bullshit. I got this off of BitTorrent no problem.The same shot, taken from the DVDs. Sure, you can see there’s more detail, but maybe the quality jump is more noticeable in the motion. Or perhaps the character outfits.Aristocratic fashion…IN THE YEAR 2000! This is the textile layering effect on the clothes and hair I was talking about. I can’t adequately illustrate this without showing multiple screenshots, but you can get a good idea from this.
This is Peppo. He looks and sounds just like a girl. Stop, stop, Hibari-kun.
Hmm, I don’t think these were originally in the book. The marketing makes it seem like this is a show with robots and action in it, but I think they only appear like, two or three times near the end. Guess that’s why Adult Swim didn’t pick it up. Jerks. If they can run Reign: The Conqueror…

Promo: StarShipSofa (1:07:21 – 1:08:49)
Tony Smith and Ciaran O’Carroll <— IRELAND ALERT are running this podcast dedicated to classic SF literature and such. Maybe you know about the authors they talk about, but they tend to talk about the more overlooked books. Mind you, these guys like Doctor Who, and Doctor Who fans are rightfully mocked by even the rest of sci-fi fandom PS: Clarissa is a Doctor Who fan.

Review (manga): Voyeur / Voyeurs Inc (1:08:49 – 1:26:40) Gerald reviews this manga by Hideo Yamamoto, author of Ichi the Killer as well as Homunculus which we reviewed in Show # 10. Only instead of being super violent and gory, this one’s all about super gross sex. And that’s Gerald’s speciality!

Review: Only Yesterday (1:26:40 – 1:49:17)
Clarissa bites the bullet and does a first for this podcast: a review of a Studio Ghibli film. We originally figured “well, everyone knows about Studio Ghibli already,” but this one’s by Ghibli’s other main creative talent Isao Takahata, who is somewhat glossed over by anime fans. Despite airing on TV in January, there is still no DVD of this film in America. We already had VHS fansubs (timed by Enrique Conty, RECOGNIZE), but the DVD of this was sent to us all the way from…

Promo: Eeepers Choice (1:49:17 – 1:50:10)
IRELAND ALERT! Yes, thanks go out to Eeeper once more, even though he’s seriously treading on Daryl’s dreams by saying Kimagure Orange Road is as good as Giant Robo. He’s watching DN Angel (which we can confirm is David Williams’ favorite show, having beaten out Dirty Pair) so we don’t have to.

Closing (1:50:10 – 1:55:00)
Our one-year anniversary is coming up next week, but we said we’d be taking a week off to…play videogames. Hmm. Perhaps we should upload SOMETHING next week. In any case, the next time a show is recorded, Daryl’s going to review the Special Edition of Fullmetal Alchemist The Movie (and he’ll have to spoil the TV series somewhat to do that), Clarissa’s got Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid, and Gerald is the luckiest man alive since he’ll be doing our very first moe show review, Moon Phase. Hey, he’s read through Voyeur and Voyeurs Inc and is BEGGING for more. Why, this shouldn’t even faze him! PS: this week there is a stinger.

Anime World Order Show # 40 – Forty Episodes and Daryl Still Can’t Use A Mic

We’re officially over the hill. Can you believe we’ve been babbling for 40 episodes? Daryl–whose gain level introduced lots of static whenever he spoke–reviews the semi-obscure 1980s film The Dagger of Kamui, Gerald reviews the quite obscure 1980s TV series Future Police Urashiman, and Clarissa gets the ball rolling with Part 1 of our Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure review.

Introduction (0:00 – 33:28)
We didn’t get a whole lot of responses regarding the state of your local anime clubs, but we did get a few, which we read here. Shocking as it may seem, there are some people out there actually taking our recommendations to heart and enjoying what they’re watching, and so we read one letter from a male MIT college student (Chemical Engineering major…wonder if he was able to finish reading Orion?) and another from a female middleaged…not a college student. Our listenership is DIVERSE! Here now is a picture of what those evil Bostonians do to their fair city:
No wonder people from Boston were portrayed as evil in that totally lame Call of the Wild anime. Hey wait a second, Daryl’s originally from Boston! Also, the winners of the Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid Vol 1 giveaway are announced! Thanks go out to Funimation for donating the prizes.

Let’s News! (33:28 – 42:04)
Koichi Murata and Ken Ishikawa are dead, people. Who’s going to protect us from moe now?! For those who bought the newly recently Lupin the Third movie/TV special compilation that Funimation released, it accidentally contains an edited version of The Secret of Twilight Gemini, and unlike those jerks at Bandai who won’t swap out Zeta Gundam DVDs, they’re letting people exchange their edited discs for the unedited one. Oh, and check out the upcoming Gunbuster DVD set. In the “huh, how about that” department, Death Note isn’t actually the most popular new anime of the season since twice as many people are watching Onna no Hataraki Man. Not like Japanese popularity translates to US fan preference, but hey. Finally, ADV’s licensed Sergeant Frog, presumably in the hopes that it’ll be another Excel Saga for them. Here’s hoping they don’t let Steven Foster dub it. Or anything else ever.

Promo: Dave and Joel’s Fast Karate For the Gentleman (42:04 – 43:11)
As heard in the beginning of this episode, Dave has graciously offered to host AWO if Daryl hosts Fast Karate. One dare not imagine what would result if Dave, Joel, and we were all gathered together in one podcast.

Review: The Dagger of Kamui (43:11 – 1:00:40)
Daryl tackles this one, as it was one of the first anime he ever saw in his formulative teenage years. This is a theatrical animated movie about ninjas. REAL ninjas, not those Ninja Scroll/Naruto weird dudes who claim to be ninjas. It also contains pirates, cowboys, Indians, quasi-zombies, Mark Twain, and multiple bears being chopped in half. Very special thanks go out to Michael Minnott for providing us with the OST to this film, which has been out of print for decades. Sasuga Books managed to track it down for him, so check them out even though their dealer’s room booths at anime cons stock the gay porno right next to the regular artbooks.

In this picture there are forty ninjas. None of them can be seen. In this film we hope to show YOU how not to be seen.
See this, Japan? This is what REAL ninjas look like. Apparently you didn’t teach this to a generation. Even Michael Dudikoff knows this.
But unlike the ninja which Michael Dudikoff and Carl Weathers would face off against, these ninja know how to LOOK UPWARDS and attack in swarms. Mr Ninja, would you stand up, please?
This demonstrates the value of not being seen. Face it, they’re in black ninja outfits; they’re meant to be fodder. Didn’t you people ever watch WMAC Masters?!
Okay Devious, don’t move! The Bishop…Tenkai! He’s the one on the left, and Jiro’s on the right. Told you he was big.
Jiro’s got the touch. Jiro’s got the power…YEAH! Yes, I’m done with the worn-out Flying Circus references. What can I say? I just got the DVD set.
This is what modern anime is missing: people being cut in half lengthwise. I think more people get cut in half lengthwise throughout this one film than in the entire history of Mortal Kombat tournaments.
With this kind of cinematography, I don’t think anyone will have trouble realizing this movie’s from the 80s, which for Japan is more like the 70s for us. Then they were stuck in the 80s for a while, then skipped the 90s entirely. Pretty good strategy when you consider how comicbooks turned out thanks to the 90s.
This is what Gerald means when he mentions in the next segment how Kaneto Shiozawa built his career off of voicing beautiful men. The “Unicorn Power” shirt I plan on buying is less flaming than that. GET IT? FLAMING? CAUSE THERE’S FIRE ON…eh.

Promo: R5 Central (1:00:40 – 1:01:40)
Actually Mike, most people I see pronounce GAIM as “gee aim,” but any excuse to make Tomino references and throw in songs by MIO is welcome around these parts. Not like anyone here ever really cared about Heavy Metal L-Gaim in the first place…

Review: Future Police Urashiman (1:01:40 – 1:21:27)
Here’s a show that was somewhat popular among American anime fandom in the very early 1980s, and since “the 1980s” is what Gerald loves most (but wait, he’s never seen any of the Rocky movies, not even Rocky IV!) (Actually Gerald HAS seen Rocky and Rocky III), he takes the plunge and reviews this 52 episode series, which ranks among one of the most obscure titles we’ve covered. It’s not licensed in the US, the DVDs are out of print in Japan, and nobody ever fansubbed this show, not even in the VHS days. So how will people ever see this show? Well, we’re going to put some episodes up on BitTorrent, albeit with crappy Hong Kong bootleg subtitles. Watch this space. Oh yeah, what we said about Koji Morimoto being a protege of Katsuhiro Otomo? That wasn’t quite right since Morimoto was working prior to collaborating with Otomo…on this show. And The Dagger of Kamui. Then again, Tugboat was Hulk Hogan’s protege and he was wrestling prior to that, but we’d rather not remember that dark time. We’d rather remember the glory days of the Shockmaster instead.

Promo: The Greatest Movie EVER! Podcast (1:21:27 – 1:22:16)
We said last week that something had to be done to straighten Paul out. That something has happened, for Daryl has guest-starred on the latest episode. Appropriate background music has been added to this promo to illustrate this fact. WE FIGHT FOR LOVE!

Review (manga): Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure, Part 1 (1:22:16 – 1:49:41)
Buckle up, folks. After months of putting it off, Clarissa’s thrown the gauntlet down and started on what will be a series of parts dedicated to reviewing the single longest shonen fighting series ever. And one of the gayest. But also one of the most awesome and violent due to its being heavily influenced by Fist of the North Star. At least the story is pre-broken up into about seven parts (to date); this review is for Part 1 of the manga, “Phantom Blood.” Like all long-running manga, the artwork and storytelling haven’t quite hit their stride at this point, but at the very least, it lives up to the name.

This is Joseph Joestar. Observe the beginning of Araki drawing people in weird poses. Also the clothes are a bit strange for Victorian England, but just FYI this is nothing compared to Araki’s fashion obsessed nonsense later.
This is Dio Brando, and by the way he would like you to note that he is fabulous. The first clue to his being evil is when he kicks Joseph’s dog upon meeting him. Worse things will happen to that dog later. This is another ongoing thing with Jojo’s: animals (also Italians) never fare very well. I think Araki might have had a traumatic experience at the zoo when he was young (I’ve got no clue what’s going on with the Italians).
You can tell that Dio’s a vampire now because 1) he makes that screeching WRYYYY sound (yes, it’s spelled about four different ways throughout the manga, so all those people arguing about how many Ys are correct should shut up) and 2) he sucks people’s blood. As you can maybe see, even though they have fangs vampires in Jojo’s drink blood through their fingers. I don’t know why, I guess biting wasn’t weird enough.
For the heck of it, here’s the trio. That weirdo Zeppeli (the one Gerald mentioned as having only one facial expression) is in the front, Joseph in the middle, and THE INTERFERING SPEEDWAGON smirking at his idol in the back.

Closing (1:49:41 – 1:53:29)
Next time, and by next time that’s later today for us, Daryl is continuing his trend of reviewing shows with strikingly unique art styles by talking about the 2004 series by Studio Gonzo, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo. Does the “Gonzo Syndrome” apply here, too? Gerald’s got a manga review of Voyeur and its followup, Voyeurs Inc. by Hideo Yamamoto, author of Ichi the Killer as well as Homunculus which Clarissa reviewed way back in Show # 10. Speaking of Clarissa, she’s going to review what just might be Studio Ghibli’s best movie, and it’s not even one of Miyazaki’s: Omoide Poro Poro, better known as Only Yesterday. Thanks go out to Eeeper from the Eeeper’s Choice podcast for sending the three of us the Region 2 DVD release of the film after we complained about how they played it on Turner Classic Movies but didn’t release it on DVD yet in the US.