Anime World Order Show # 12 – Searching for Odin, My Love!

Our guest this week is Mike Toole from Anime Jump, who’s been putting the “dumb” in anime fandom since 1998! Gerald and Clarissa review the excellent series Monster, and Mike and Daryl review the Often Overlooked (and notoriously terrible) Odin: Photon Space Sailer Starlight. Yes, that’s spelled correctly.

Introduction (0:00 – 19:26)
Our guest for the episode, Mike Toole, joins us from the start and we immediately dive right into talking about our ideal anime convention. Wait, didn’t someone ask us this already? Whatever, Mike’s here this time! If you want to play Mario Kart DS with him, his Friend Code is 137506166547. Wait, weren’t you not supposed to give those out over the Internet or something?

  • Greg Ayres (he’s coming to a con near you! But he’s not just a rave DJ guy or a “cool voice actor vicariously living out the dream for you,” so be sure to go to his panels about fansubber ethics)
  • IMDB entry for The Three Amigos
  • At some point Daryl tries to make a reference to this Monty Python episode but fails
  • ANN entry for Maya Okamoto
  • ANN entry for Norio Wakamoto (voice of Chiyo’s dad, Mechazawa, etc)
  • ANN entry for Kaneto Shiozawa (Rest in peace; Paul von Oberstein is Daryl’s role model)
  • Official fanclub for Akira Kamiya (voice of Kenshiro, Ryo Saeba, Roy Fokker, and much more)
  • ANN entry for Kenichi Sonoda (creator of Riding Bean and Gunsmith Cats)
  • An unofficial Go Nagai fan site (“father” of manga, not to be confused with Osamu Tezuka who is the “God” of manga)
  • Wikipedia entry on Haim Saban (man who brought us Power Rangers and too much hacked up anime to count; his spirit lives on within 4Kids Entertainment)
  • ANN entry on Haruki Kadokawa (Gerald considers him to be easily the craziest man to work in anime)
  • IMDB entry for The Final Countdown
  • AnimeHell.org (god damn it, what time does Midnight Madness start?)
  • An English language page about Loudness (they’re touring the US!)
  • Anime Weekend Atlanta (Daryl’s first convention and still his favorite)

Let’s News! (19:26 – 29:28)
Rather abrupt transition into the news this week. The 2005 profits for 4Kids Entertainment are down 60% from 2004 because the kids who grew up on Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh now realize that their little kid brothers or whatever are into the same thing and therefore it can’t possibly be cool. In other news, everything about Bleach is licensed worldwide by Viz Media. Expect people to continue fansubbing and scanning it anyway without even having the decency to say “yeah, we’re doing this because we’re thieves and want to watch/read this for free.” At least software and movie pirates own up to what they are.

Promo: Ninja Consultant (29:28 – 31:14)
Erin from Ninja Consultant is probably our #1 fan among other podcasters, but Noah thinks Daryl is a stupid head for saying that Hols, Prince of the Sun was merely “good” instead of “the best thing ever made.” This type of criticism is normally levied towards Daryl by American comicbook fans who just can’t fathom the concept of someone not liking Watchmen / Sandman / Transmetropolitan / Preacher / insert decent-but-not-incredible thing written by someone from the British Isles here. The absolute worst is when those comics people say “oh, well CLEARLY you didn’t understand it! Read it again!” Anyway, listen to the Ninja Consultant podcast, even though this promo is like, twice as long as most promos.

Synopsis/Review: Monster [CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE FIRST FOUR EPISODES OR SO] (31:14 – 48:34)
Clarissa and Gerald both wanted to do a segment about Naoki Urasawa’s long-running manga series turned anime, but hadn’t done so until now since they were still watching the show. Not that it matters, since you can’t really talk about anything that happens without giving the series away. This segment is essentially a plot synopsis of the first few episodes (so that’s basically the first volume of the manga), but it’s not like they’re ruining the series for you or even giving away much of anything. Still, we’re putting the warning there. Buy this you geeks.

  • ANN’s Entry on Monster (For a quick overview of the show)
  • Official Monster Site (Japanese)
  • Viz’ Official Monster Site (Buy the damn manga, it’s just that good)

Promo: Corn Pone Flicks (48:34 – 49:37)
Leader Desslok has a plan to stick it to the man in this 1999 short which can be viewed on the CPF website or on Google Video. A “Cocaine Howitzer” production? Why, whatever is it that Matt Murray could have been referring to with that joke? Perhaps the next segment will shed some light on the matter!
PS: read Matt’s movie reviews. He just did a really good one on V for Vendetta. Incidentally, the comicbook to that is also “just okay” and not “the greatest thing ever committed to the printed medium by the greatest author to ever live” no matter what comicbook fans say.

Often Overlooked: Odin: Photon Space Sailer Starlight (49:37 – 1:27:03)
When Daryl ran into Mike at Katsucon 12, it was only for a brief moment since Mike was on staff and had matters to attend to. But he insisted that he be on the show when we did our review of Odin, so we waited until this fateful day. Look people, when you start talking about “worst anime ever made,” you are not qualified to speak on the subject unless you’ve seen Odin, okay? This is one of the single biggest disasters in anime history, and Mike and Daryl will tell you all about exactly why that is with the help of quite a few audio clips. Listen on and be forever enlightened.

  • ANN’s Entry on Odin
  • Central Park Media’s Official Odin Site (Be careful, that release is edited, what you’re really looking for is this release. Wait, you’re not looking for this, so IGNORE THAT LINK!)
  • Picture of the elevator moment that’s forever burned into Daryl’s head for no good reason

In late 2012, many years after this review, someone has uploaded the 2 hour and 20 minute version of Odin to Youtube.

Closing (1:27:03 – 1:34:25)
Sorry this episode was even later than usual, but Daryl had gotten word that his grandmother had died right before we recorded this episode, and was attending the funeral during the days he would normally spend editing the show (fortunately Gerald and Clarissa did most of the work in his absence). We close things up by playing what is easily the greatest Discipline ad copy reading we’ve received to date, courtesy of our friend Max, aka the “Lensman…THE DUB” guy from a few episodes back. Next week–and that’s next week for you, later today for us–Gerald brings back the Creator Spotlight segment by talking about his favorite director, Katsuhito Akiyama. Clarissa will review the long-running yet Often Overlooked manga series From Eroica With Love by Yasuko Aoike, and Daryl will review a currently-running manga by Naoki Urasawa entitled Pluto.

Anime World Order Show # 11 – Death Note, Zipang, and the Unlabored Flawlessness OF TRUTH

We’re testing to see if recording in mono sounds better or worse. PLEASE let us know if it sounds bad. This week we read lots of email, Gerald conveys his thoughts on Zipang, Clarissa finally reviews Death Note, and Daryl’s search for THE TRUTH continues!

Introduction (0:00 – 32:08)
Hey, we got mentioned on Ain’t It Cool News! We love to read your email and play your voice mail messages, and it shows since we spend more and more time doing it each week. Among many other things, we talk about some of our favorite opening credits sequences, dubs vs subs (AAARGH), how Daryl’s giving gekiga a bad rap, and THE SECRET BEHIND DOG SOLDIER!

  • Definition of what an Internet Male is
  • The Yoko Kanno Project – page with lots of Yoko Kanno stuff; she did the music for Stand Alone Complex, Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne, Macross Plus, and lots more
  • Official Witch Hunter Robin page (the original official page has expired so I guess this show’s pretty much forgotten even though it was THE hot show just a few years back)
  • Fiction Junction: Yuki Kaijura’s Official Homepage (she seems to be the queen of doing excellent music to shows that are, more often than not, terrible)
  • Susumu Hirasawa’s Official Site (he did the music for Berserk, Millennium Actress, Paranoia Agent, etc…wait, didn’t we cut the part where we talked about him at length?)
  • Anime News Network’s entry for Magical Project S, a show which most of the pedophiles didn’t even buy (actually it’s not bad for what it is)
  • Interview with ADV voice actor George Manley as conducted by TRUTH purveyor Chuck Shandry
  • ANN entry for Dirty Pair Project E.D.E.N.
  • ANN entry for Noriyuke Abe (he’s the guy who directed Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho, Flame of Recca, etc)
  • The Comics Interpreter
  • Links to buy The Push Man and Other Stories (by Yoshihiro Tatsumi, the inventor of gekiga)
  • AnimeHell.org (wait a second, all my “what time does Midnight Madness start” jokes got cut out for time?! NO MORE EDITING OF THE INTRO BY PEOPLE WITHOUT AN ULTIMATE EYE)
  • ANN entry for Minna Agechau
  • ANN entry for Dog Soldier (one of the worst anime ever; expect Daryl to review this at some point)
  • What ZRO Limit Productions has worked on
  • What Animaze has worked on
  • A page about what anime is released in Sweden

Let’s News! (32:08 – 40:53)
Just as Daryl predicted, Wallace and Gromit won the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. Plus, we’re not generally ones to mention videogame news, but Super Robot Wars Original Generation 1 and 2 are coming out for the Gameboy Advance! Too bad they’re the Original Generation games (which means there’s no pre-established anime characters in them), but the gameplay, animations, storyline, etc are still top-rate, so place your preorders now lest you not get a copy once it goes out of print within a week after coming out! Last but not least, Dark Horse Comics has put up a 2002 interview with Kazuo Koike, and they talk about AIUEO Boy aka The Starving Man! If you connect the dots, read between the lines, and believe hard enough, we’ll be getting The Starving Man in English in no time!

Promo: Weekly Anime Review podcast (40:54 – 41:27)
A pretty sizeable amount of people get to the AWO webpage via the Weekly Anime Review site, and with any luck, the opposite is true as well.

Often Overlooked: Zipang (40:53 – 55:08)
Proof positive that “Often Overlooked” does not necessarily imply “oldschool,” Gerald talks about this military science fiction series from about two years ago which seemed to slip under the radars of many people. And it’s not like you can use the “well, that’s what submarines are supposed to do” excuse like in Silent Service, either! Listen and find out what you’re missing.

  • ANN entry for Zipang
  • There would have been a link about Eagle here but it’s not on Viz’s site anymore, WTF man do you guys hate America or something

Review (manga): Death Note (55:08 – 1:13:08)
People weren’t too keen on the decision to omit the 20 minutes of Clarissa talking about Death Note from last week’s episode, so we’ve moved it here instead. Actually, we should have just pasted in what we’d already recorded, but instead we just talked about it again. This one’s pretty massively popular with the fangirls due to the artwork, but don’t let that scare you off guys. After all, this is a Shonen Jump property with a fair share of well, death. And notes.

And the POUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCE.

PERIOD.

  • ANN entry for Death Note
  • Death Note page on Viz’s site
  • Review of Death Note vol 1 from Viz – I’m linking because this reviewer alleges the print transfer/quality is very low, at least on this volume
  • AoD review of Death Note vol 1 – this one does not mention low print quality, but they reviewed an advance preview package and not the shipped to stores final version
  • Obata Takeshi Wikipedia entry
  • Ohba Tsugumi Wikipedia entry
  • Death Note live action movie site (Japanese)

Promo: Happy House of Hentai (link not safe for work) podcast (1:13:08 – 1:13:30)
It’s a podcast entirely about hentai. Except it’s also got reviews of regular porn. And stuff about Hello Kitty that has nothing to do with hentai or porn. Someone’s got a Swiftboating coming their way.

The Search for THE TRUTH: Katsucon 12, Part 2 (1:13:30 – 1:24:05)
Daryl’s journey to discover THE TRUTH continues from where it left off last week. Following his unprepared exposure to the Source, he chooses instead to focus on the proliferation of the Unlabored Flawlessness at anime conventions in recent months. There are so many more TRUTH worthy pictures, but many of them don’t have corresponding interviews. There’s no telling what will be done with them at this point.

  • The sad clown rape victims
  • A civilian spreads THE TRUTH to a ninja by using the Unlabored Flawlessness
  • Another Source of THE TRUTH bearing an Unlabored Flawlessness accompanied by a terrifying demon familiar
  • This guy is who cons spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to attract
  • The GeekNights podcast (thanks for all the technical advice!)
  • GameFAQs page on the Unlabored Flawlessness for anyone who doesn’t get the joke

Closing (1:24:05 – 1:26:43)
We’ve gotten repeated emails from Megacon attendees that were bearers of THE TRUTH requesting their interview segments be played, but alas the Megacon segment will have to be put off a week. But fret thee not, for next week Gerald and Clarissa will both be reviewing Naoki Urasawa’s Monster. It would have happened sooner except they wanted to watch through most all of it first. Then Daryl informed them that they couldn’t talk about more than the first few episodes anyway without totally spoiling it, so here we are. Balance is key, and since Gerald and Clarissa are reviewing something as good as Monster, Daryl reaches into the “worst anime titles ever made” vault and review the Often Overlooked (with good reason) anime film…

ODIN: PHOTON SPACE SAILER [sic] STARLIGHT.

Consider yourselves warned. And since he DEMANDED to be present for the Odin love-fest, our guest will be Mike Toole, aka The Guy Who Read the Discipline Ad Copy in Show 10 (send in MORE recordings, people!). Oh, and he also runs Anime Jump which is an anime review site that all the cool people read and post on.